Yes - Close To The Edge (CD, Album)
I like The Rhino Tales best. The eq choices add some life to an otherwise often dull recording the original vinyl was no great treat either. Pete PumaOct 2, Location: Denver, CO. The Yes Album : Flat transfer from either HDTracks or the Wilson set I believe the former was released well ahead of the latter, but these could be the same mastering? I do like the MFSL despite Yes - Close To The Edge (CD reduced dynamic range; at the very least, it's a good one for the car.
Fragile : MFSL. The Joe Gastwirt is second. Yessongs : Original Atlantic fatboy 2CD set. Album) Flat transfer from Yes - Close To The Edge (CD Wilson set, although the remix he did for me is so much better than the shrill, congested-sounding original mix in any form. VeeDubOct 2, This thread was started because I couldn't find any threads on anything but individual CDs.
Check out the DR database for an apparent lack of dynamic range there, compared with the BD master. There is far too big a difference to be explained by simply more bass in the MFSL. There simply must have been a problem with decoding Dolby A encoding here, or the wrong tapes were supplied.
Shawn Britten has stated that here was no compression applied by MFSL during mastering, so it's the only logical conclusion.
It doesn't look brick walled, but rather like analog compression or peak limiting has been applied to the recording - the ebb and flow of the waveform has been unified. I should have saved my Atlantic gold CD packaging though - Atlantic did an excellent job there. I normally really like Barry Diament's style of mastering it's similar to our host' sbut he really was supplied with an awful tape and told to use it. Yessongs and Tales From Topographic Oceans are examples of where I was led by the boom and tizz "improvements" up a garden path.
I rather like the remixes. The flat transfers will be particularly interesting in the cases of Fragile and Tales From Topographic Oceans. Location: Connecticut, USA. I am curious how others feel about the Gastwirt mastering of Tales It is the only version I have owned and maybe isn't great but has never sounded bad to me. Every copy of the original Atlantic I have seen has been too expensive for me to try and I am not a fan of any of the Rhinos I have heard so I won't go there.
Does anyone else like the Gastwirt Tales from Topographic Oceans or at least find it satisfactory? Location: United States. Here are my preferences for the classic period: The Yes Album - Diament. I also enjoy the Gastwirt and Rhino remasters when I'm in the mood for some more "sparkle" in the sound. Fragile - Tie between the Diament and Gastwirt. The former is very crankable and has good EQ, but I don't like the distortion that's present in South Side of the Sky.
The Rhino is a little harsh with the boosted upper-mids and compression, so I can only listen to a few songs at a time without fatigue. The Diament could use a touch more midrange, while the Gastwirt and Rhino are both way too bright for me. Yessongs - Diament. It's the only version I have, so I guess I don't really have a choice. Tales from Topographic Oceans - Original. The only other mastering I have is the Rhino, and I don't care for it since it has too much upper-midrange.
Relayer - Rhino. I guess I'm going against the grain with this, but the Rhino is the only version that I can listen to without having my ears get pierced by the high-end. The Zal and Marino discs are too bright, hissy, and congested.
Keep in mind that I've not heard the Wilson remix yet. For the heck of it, here are my preferences for the other albums up to Big Generator: Yes - Original. The Rhino is bright, Yes - Close To The Edge (CD okay if you don't have another version. Time and a Word - Rhino. I bet nobody expected that, huh?
The Rhino may be a bit compressed and trebly compared to original, but it sounds like it came from a much better tape. The original can be a tad muddy in certain spots, plus Clear Days and the title track have some "tape problems" which I couldn't detect.
This is the only version that comes close to perfect. Tormato - Zal. Close to the Edge would make the Top Five on both sides of the Atlantic, dispatch Yes on the longest tour Album) their career so far and, if hindsight be the guide, launch the band on a downward swing that only disintegration, rebuilding, and a savage change of direction would cure. The latter, however, was still to come.
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